RED PILL EXAMPLE - Coffee date Vs Dinner date

 

When you think of the words "first date" one of the images that come into your head is that of a man taking a woman out to dinner at a nice restaurant, paying for everything and hoping to "get lucky". We see this all the time on films, TV shows and online dating adverts. Women will often state directly "it's what men should do", despite the fact that some men will often go for cheaper/simpler options in the modern era such as coffee.

There are two variables to consider.

A cheap date (coffee) Vs an expensive date (dinner)
A woman's interest in the man can be high or lukewarm.

Expensive date / Woman's interest is lukewarm.
Although a woman is not that into the man she will often still go along with the date for the free food. A third of the women you date are only in it for free food: study (nypost.com) Even worse is the fact that a lot of women have friends with benefits. They will use one guy for food and entertainment, send him on his way then spend the night with another man who doesn't care about or do anything for her. This scenario is a lot more common than most men are comfortable with.

Cheap date / Woman's interest is lukewarm.
The easiest way around the above situation is to refuse to take her on an expensive date in the first place. If a woman's interest is high she will agree to something simple. If she is pushing you to take her out for dinner, you stand your ground and refuse and she loses interest. Congratulations you have just weeded out a timewaster and a gold digger.

Expensive date / Woman's interest is High.
In the old days men HAD to take women out on expensive and demonstrate extensively their long term provider abilities before they got anywhere near a woman's bedroom door. Today many women will have sex with a random stranger within hours of meeting him at a bar or club. Modern dating coaches have discovered that spending lots of money before sex will put you into the "provider" category in her mind and will increase the amount of time/effort/money it takes before having sex with her. Women's Three Buttons - Alpha Male 2.0 (alphamale20.com)

Cheap date / Woman's interest is High.

This is the best outcome, once a sexual relationship has been established then you can take her out on expensive dates but not before. (and don't overdo it).

Conclusion.
Over many years men went out on dates making notes about what worked with women and what didn't. They didn't listen to what women said by went by their actions. Women complain about men not taking them out on proper dates but won't complain about the other women who use men for the free food or give sex on the first date. 

 

BETAIZATION

 "Women demand behaviours from men that will turn them off sexually to that man in the long run."

A woman's prime directive is to get the seed of an Alpha male. Then convert that man into a beta. This is where the female fantasy of changing / taming / fixing a bad boy comes from. The high rates of single motherhood shows how often this strategy fails. In which case the woman finds an actual beta male or relies on the state to support her.

Every man who has been in a relationship will experience betaization to some degree. In the initial stages of a relationship the woman will make demands for exclusivity, to meet his family and to move in together.

The man complies with these demands only to find only temporary improvement in his relationship. No man has ever got more frequent / more intense sex after moving in with his girlfriend.

As the relationship progresses the woman will start complaining about things that never bothered her when they were casually dating. Such as leaving the toilet seat up, not liking one of his friends or the fact that he likes to go fishing on Sunday afternoon.

She complains about the very things she found exciting about him when they first met. Such as him being a singer in a local band and riding a big Harley Davidson. She now wants him to quit the band, sell his motorbike and get something more "appropriate".

The woman's demands will usually be accompanied by nagging, the silent treatment and the use of sex as a bargaining tool. Again she did no such thing in the early stages of the relationship and probably innated a lot of the sex herself.

Each time the man complies with her demands she is temporarily happy only to later issue more demands. The badass Alpha male eventually becomes a submissive beta after dozens of individual demands over many years. Paradoxically she turns her man into the type of person she would never have dated initially. At this point she (often secretly) despises him and the odds of divorce, cheating or dead bedroom skyrocket.

Betaization is a part of a woman's hardwired biology and not done from a position of malice or even conscious awareness. The only way to counteract this is to be aware of it and act accordingly. Ignore a woman's demands for beta male behaviour and continue with the Alpha male behaviour that attracted her to you in the first place. Every bitchy demanding woman is the end result of a man who continually wouldn't say no.

Just as women get turned off by men who comply with all their demands the opposite is also true. It's nothing unusual to hear a woman complaining about how her man won't take her on proper dates, meet his family or how he spends too much time in the pub with his friends. Yet the woman will continue to date him often for years when she could easily replace him with a man who would do all those things for her.

Avoiding betaization is the foundation of relationship game.

INCELS

 

NOTE: For the purposes of this post, I will define an Incel as "a man who wants to have sex, but hasn't done so in the last year". Incels are simply the inevitable end product of a society that has moved away from traditional marriage. Women are increasingly choosing to have sex with the top 10-20% of men, meaning that men at the bottom get left out. The Number of Sexless Men Has Tripled in 10 Years - YouTube

"When debating gender issues, an opponent may call you a misogynist or an Incel. This is often not because you are a misogynist or an Incel but because they lack the desire or skills to debate rationally & respectfully so they turn to insults & irrational accusations". Phil Mitchell: Male abuse specialist.

INCEL AS AN INSULT

This is basically just an Ad hominem attack. If your opponent could argue against your point with facts and logic, they would do it. A man's sexual history has absolutely no relevance to the validity of an argument. Ironically, this slur is constantly used by the same feminists and white knights who say you shouldn't judge a woman by her sexual history. 

Implying that a man's worth is determined by his ability to have sex with lots of women is about as "patriarchal" as you can get.

The obvious illogical use of the word can be demonstrated by the fact that members of the political party Reform are branded as "young incels" while also being exposed for domestic violence. How can you be an incel if you attract women enough for them to move in with you?

MANY MEN ARE ONLY A BREAKUP AWAY FROM BEING INCEL THEMSELVES

Or a year away from their partner, suddenly giving them the "not tonight, I have a headache" excuse night after night. Which makes it a little stupid to use it as an insult to other men. Strangely enough, men stuck in sexless marriages don't seem to be included in any discussion about incels.

I have even seen passport bros use the word as an insult, even though they would have no chance of getting laid in their own Western country. 

MUSLIM TERRORISTS ARE USUALLY LEFT OUT OF ANY DEBATE ABOUT INCELS 

Countries like Saudi Arabia have a sexually repressed society where rich men can have up to 4 wives. It's almost always the single man blowing themselves up or joining extreme groups like ISIS. 9/11 was an incel job. 

INCEL MEANS JUST THAT INVOLUNTARY 

If women reject a man because he's ugly, it's obviously something he has no control over. Mocking a man because of this is on par with mocking someone for being physically disabled. The popularity of Incel as a throwaway insult is the biggest indicator that people don't care for the average man or his problems. He's invisible and is dismissed as low status rather than afforded actual compassion. 

By contrast, it's easy to find countless stories in the media of women who complain that they can't find a "good man". The 30-something women who have NEVER had a boyfriend - and they all blame modern dating culture | Daily Mail Online. Typically, they will blame men for not measuring up rather than their own life choices, such as prioritising their careers, dating players/bad boys or getting fat. Imagine the comments section if this were 3 young men who couldn't get a girlfriend.  

Women often pursue some of the most vile men in society, yet get little to no backlash for doing so. Incel hardly reflects on an individual man's "quality". 

THE MAJORITY OF MEN IN THE MANOSPHERE / RED PILL COMMUNITY ARE NOT INCELS 

Most men in the online forums I have been part of since the start of 2017 are usually married men who have been screwed over in divorces. I was blindsided by the sudden breakup of a 5-year relationship. There are even former pickup artists who have burned out. These forums often have strict rules against "Incel language" and will frequently ban people who promote any kind of violence against women.

Incels who comply are usually advised to improve their social and dating skills or failing that, help them to divert their anger and frustration away from women and live the best life possible.

Associating the manosphere with a tiny minority of Incels who do advocate violence against women on sites like 4chan is another strategy used by feminists and white knights who can't argue with logic and reason.  

HAVING A LARGE NUMBER OF SEXLESS YOUNG MEN IS VERY BAD FOR SOCIETY. 

Having Regular Sex Is Important To Society - Alpha Male 2.0 (alphamale20.com). If you cared about society, you would care about helping Incels. These men have no incentive to participate in society or improve their lives. They don't need to work overtime on Saturday morning to pay the mortgage or buy stuff for the kids when they still live at home with their parents. This is an economic disaster. These men are perfect candidates to join extreme groups like the far right to vent their anger and frustration.  The Coming Far Right Backlash - YouTube

WOMEN ACTIVELY OPPOSE THE VERY THINGS THAT WOULD HELP INCELS. 

I'm not a traditional right-wing conservative, society will not go back to how it was in 1950, when most people went to church and got married before the age of 25. Let's be realistic...

Helping young men improve their social and dating skills. This is just obvious; however, many of the websites are quarantined (Red pill Reddit) or outright banned completely under the deliberately vague banner of misogyny. It's perfectly fine to teach women how to exploit men for money, hide their sexual pasts or whore themselves out on OnlyFans. Men who just want to improve their dating skills have to find hidden forums to do so. Having sex just a few times a year would be sufficient to keep a lot of men off actual hate sites on 4chan. No One Would Have Died If Elliot Rodger had learned Game 

Fully legal and regulated prostitution. Some men are beyond hope (see photo of Incel murderer Jake Davidson), and all the dating tips in the world won't help. Again, giving men like this that option would probably divert most of them away from hate-filled 4chan sites. Yet I don't see feminists campaigning for legal prostitution; in fact, quite the opposite, where men are actively shamed for using prostitutes. The same goes for sex dolls.

MGTOW teaches men to live their best lives without women. Again, women shame men who are literally "going their own way". A View From Above - YouTube

Foreign brides. Again, women will often shame a middle-aged man who comes back to the UK with a young woman from SE Asia. Yet you don't see men shaming fat middle-aged women for bringing home a toy boy from Gambia.

WOMEN PROPOSE NO SOLUTION. 

Women may think a particular man is an unattractive loser, but no problem, her life, her opinion. But she doesn't seem to want that same man to learn dating skills, use legal prostitution, go MGTOW or even get married abroad. I'm at a loss as to what women propose. This has some sinister implications for the female thought process.

WOMEN'S "ADVICE" HAS CREATED A LOT OF THE MONSTER THEY NOW HATE. 

Men are constantly bombarded with the message that women want a nice, caring, loyal, unthreatening, emotionally open boyfriend on the feminist path. Only to spend their lives in soul-crushing celibacy while watching the same women practically throw themselves at players, badboys and keep going back to their abusive exes. When men call women out on this, their default response is to shame men for "feeling entitled to sex" or "being nice to me doesn't entitle you to my body". SEE FRIENDZONE Hardly a surprise when some men explode in anger and frustration.

Further reading: Confessions of a Reformed InCel | M3 (wordpress.com) 

LOSER (Female)

 

"A woman can be 45 years old, still living with her parents, earning minimum wage at Macdonald's, having no ambitions in life other than watching trash TV. Yet society still won't label her a loser"

We are all familiar with the concept of a male loser. The middle aged video game player who is overweight and lives in his mothers basement. So in the interest of balance it's only fair that we define a female equivalent. Here are several factors that contribute to a female being a "loser". 

SINGLE MOTHER

The only 100% exception I'd make to this was if a woman was widowed. I'd make a partial exception if her children were at least teenagers and her split with their dad was amicable.

She picked her child's dad over hundreds of other men who propositioned her throughout her adult life. If he's a deadbeat, she split from him while the children were young (she couldn't "fix" him), or even worse multiple baby daddies. This screams out LOSER.

Very attractive in her 20s but her life's a mess in middle age.

She won a genetic lottery that should have landed her an easy life such as marrying a rich banker. Instead she squandered her prime years on players and bad boys. The female equivalent of Michael Carroll. 

Her dating profile is a long list of demands. 

She's desperately trying to give the impression that she's high value and can afford to be so picky. She goes on lots of first dates but hardly ever seems to be in a relationship. It's the equivalent to putting a showroom price tag on a 10 year old car. She then claims to be Single because men don't meet her above unrealistic demands or can't handle a "strong independent women". The reality is that a high value man has far better options. Bonus points for Marilyn Monroe quote on her Facebook profile.

A variation on this theme is bragging about all the men she rejects. Such as the socially awkward guy or the one who didn't own a car. High value women (young, attractive, childless, pleasant to be around) get more offers and therefore reject more men than anyone else. Yet it's only the older women who feel the need to broadcast their rejections on social media.

Constantly brags about how "strong and independent" she is.

Bonus points for "I don't need a man". A look at her dating profile will usually say "online today". Go figure!!!
Will try to use her successful career as a selling point (that men don't care about). 

Celeb Jones busts the strong independent woman myth here. Strong, Independent Woman? Are You Sure That's What You Are? - Alpha Male 2.0 (alphamale20.com)

Has a meltdown when men reject her.

The second she meets a man who (nearly) satisfies her insane checklist of demands but he rejects her, she explodes. He's a shallow misogynist for wanting a young, slim, childless woman without mental health issues. 

Gives off a general man hating vibe / Feminist.

She doesn't actually hate "all men" but her own inability to attract high value men and get them to stick around for the long term. When the last dozen men have all pumped and dumped her she never considers the fact that she doesn't have the personality to make these men want to stick around.

Posts "advice" that she'd never follow herself.

3AM thoughts, relationship quotes, she spent her entire adult life doing the exact opposite and only wants to do the "right thing" now she's pushing 40 and got some deadbeats kids in toe.

Promotes fat acceptance.

A condition that kills around 85 people a day in the UK. She'd never date a fat man and often posts photos of lean muscular male models as her ideal. 

Uses the phrase "real man".

Standard social blackmail that always describes a man who she would never have dated in her 20s. Also accurately describes a slave.

Uses the word "Incel" as an insult.

This is worth a separate post all by itself.

Pretends to care about men's issues.

Sometimes she takes a break from man hating to share a viral post on male suicide. Advising men to be open about their feelings and problems. Despite the fact she would never date a man who does this. A week later she takes down her "be kind" logo and goes back to bragging about how she dumped the socially awkward guy on the first date.

If you deleted all the women on social media who have a #BeKind emblem on their profile photo. Then you'll be left only with women who may actually be genuinely kind and not self absorbed attention seekers.

Endless selfies.

She has a pretty face, but it reeks of desperation when she changes her profile picture every week. She has the same desperate men telling her "she's beautiful" or similar. Who of course she will never date in a million years. Bonus points for strategic face shots that hide her not so attractive figure.

At the gym posts .

But she hasn't lost an ounce of her ample fat in the past year.

Has no real interests in life.

Except trash TV such as The Kardashians, Big brother, Geordie Shores. Especially shows like Love island that give completely unrealistic perceptions on dating and relationships.